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Published: June 20, 2007Ask any Clevelander about the Rock Hall, and be prepared for an onslaught of moaning.
The museum part isn't the problem, they'll say. What's not awesome about gawking at Bowie's glittery unitard, Muddy Waters' axe, or Lennon's journals?
It's the actual Hall of Fame that brings out the bitching.
Many begin with the obligatory gripes about the induction ceremonies being held in New York. "If rich baseball players can go to Cooperstown and football players to Canton, then certainly rock stars can come to Cleveland," says Mike Jordan, former music director at WCSB.
Others contend that five-star banquets at the Waldorf-Astoria run afoul of rock's image as rebel music. "A hall of fame with a black-tie induction ceremony is pretty much the antithesis of what I think about when I listen to someone like the Clash," says Dave Rich, guitarist for Akron pop darlings Houseguest.
And then there is the legion of haters -- those who claim the Hall is a joke, that it ignores invention for commercial success, that it's not much different from a Cape Cod T-shirt shop -- a place for tourists to be relieved of their money. "What does it have to do with me?" asks Gabe Fulvimar, a bartender at the Matinee, who prefers Modest Mouse to Van Halen. "They'll never induct any bands I give a shit about."
But here's the kicker: No matter how intensely music aficionados detest the Hall, no matter how vigorously they denounce it as just another industry gimmick, they don't hesitate to argue about who truly deserves induction. They'll make a federal case for Sonic Youth. They'll bewail the injustice of Kiss' continued omission. And they swear they'll never go downtown again if Bon Jovi is included. Think of it as the musical version of junior high, where you're happy to talk shit about the popular kids, but secretly wish they'd invite you to sit at their lunch table. We all crave validation -- even the rock and roll rebel.
Till now, the 500-member induction committee, an anonymous cadre of critics, historians, and industry types, has had it easy. Inductees have largely been no-brainers culled from the big sellers who revolutionized rock (Elvis, the Beatles, Zeppelin) and the icons of blues, country, and soul that shaped the music's future: Muddy Waters, Hank Williams, Booker T. & the MG's.
But as the pool of eligible artists now reaches into the '70s and '80s, the terrain becomes increasingly more difficult to navigate and the arguments more heated. This was the era when the definition of rock became as clear as mud.
Pop artists like Michael Jackson and Madonna replaced Jimi Hendrix and Santana on the Billboard charts. Rock, in its purest guitar/bass/drums configuration, was largely pushed to the fringes, where it regularly reinvented itself: punk, hardcore, metal, glam, alt-rock, grunge. Even Rolling Stone, the Woodstock generation's authority on rock, was now covering everything from hip-hop to synth-pop. People began asking themselves whether rock was really a sound or simply what sits atop the pop charts. No one could agree.
This all makes the Rock Hall's future as sketchy as a Detroit Avenue hooker on meth. The Hall's website claims that one of its goals is "to recognize the contributions of those who have had a significant impact on the evolution, development, and perpetuation of rock and roll." But how will it measure that? By record sales? Innovation? Will there be quotas for gender and race, as well as genres like hip-hop and techno? Or is it just one big popularity contest?
Scene called and asked, but Rock Hall spokeswoman Margaret Thresher didn't have a response. "Good question," she said.
The answer is that without a concrete definition of rock, there is no science to make the induction process flawless. Outside of Nirvana, the next decade doesn't boast many safe picks. Even Madonna will be a controversial inductee, seeing as the pop diva never released a rock record in her entire career.
Then there are the guys who sold out arenas, only to end up on the cheesy VH1 rock docs -- the Poisons and New Kids on the Blocks of the world. No one would claim they were innovative or had any staying power (NKOTB didn't even rawk!). But they defined musical eras and sold gobs 'n' gobs of records (even though they now make up 90 percent of the stock at the Record Exchange).
How will this shadowy induction committee weigh those guys against, say, the Replacements and Dinosaur Jr. -- artists that aren't household names and never graced the cover of Rolling Stone, but created whole new genres and birthed hundreds of new bands?
It's the sorta fight we like to jump into. So here are 10 artists who we think embody the Rock Hall's future induction dilemmas and why.
How did we assemble this noble list, you ask? Well, we figured since the Hall has no guidelines, we didn't need any either. Enjoy!
Judas Priest
Before Judas Priest, there was no such thing as heavy metal. Sure, there was the bombast of Zeppelin and the dark sludge of Sabbath, but the Priest wrote the book on modern metal. In addition to establishing the dress code of leather and studs, the Priest set the standard for guitar virtuosity with its dueling twin leads. Their mechanized onslaught and classical grandeur also severed gritty hard rock from its blues roots, contorting it into something white and very European.
Aside from the innovation, Judas Priest has sold over 38 million albums worldwide. Still, the chances of singer Rob Halford driving his motorcycle into the Rock Hall are as slim as his chaps. Though heavy metal is one of the most popular genres in the world, people other than metalheads see bands like the Priest in only one of two ways. Either they're terrifying devil worshipers, or they're Spinal Tap.










Black Flag will never, ever, be inducted into the hall of fame. They're more influential than any of the other clowns you brought up, though.
Especially Metallica. Talk about overrated.
My nomination (who would also refuse to accept it): Fugazi.
Comment by Zaq — June 21, 2007 @ 01:55PM
First, the Rock Hall is a joke. That's why the term "Rock N Roll Hall Of Shame exists. Instead of getting to look at Madonna's stained underware, Elton John's puke bucket, Johnny Cash's used toilet paper, Jimi Hendrix's aphid collection or Patty Smith's used tampon collection. They ought to do things like:
Reunite the original King Crimson (who they "will not" induct) to perform the first album in it's entirety, one time at the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame or a better Cleveland venue, not New York, while they're still breathing. Reunite Gabriel, Hacket, Collins, Rutherford and Banks (the real Genesis, they also will not be inducted)for a one time concert in Cleveland, not New York, while they're still here on earth. Reunite McCartney and Starr and get Clapton and Jeff Lynne to fill in for Lennon and Harrison for a one time concert event in the Cleveland area, not New York, who knows how long we'll have them either. Put Yoko on trial for breaking up The Beatles here in a temporary court set up at the hall. Things like that would make the Rock Hall something people might give a damn about, until then...let them have sparse crowds for Madonna's vagina toupe, Elvis's nostril hairs or Eddie Van Halen's empty Vodka bottle collection.
Comment by Rick Ray — June 21, 2007 @ 02:13PM
These are the artists that are overdue for induction:
1.Heart (eligible 2001)
2.Kiss (eligible 1998)
3.Rush (eligible 1999)
4.Judas Priest ( eligible 1999)
5.Pat Benatar ( eligible 2004)
Comment by Dave Cackowski — June 21, 2007 @ 07:43PM
They should just stop letting new bands into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. They don't let new dinosaurs into the Smithsonian, do they?
Comment by Norton Zenger — June 21, 2007 @ 11:17PM
Alannis? Seriously? What are we honoring here? She's a former Canadian pop star who turned into a "alt-rock" pop star in the mid-90's. Her music was far from relevent then, and it is less than relevent now. In good conscience, how can you argue that she needs to be in the Rock hall because they "need to have more female inductees." Do you honestly put her up there with the Beatles, the Velvet Underground, or Pink Floyd? She's pop trash, and she doesn't belong in the Rock Hall.
Comment by Not Euclid — June 22, 2007 @ 10:55AM
And then let's induct Paris Hilton for singing songs when she's not even a real singer!
Come on guys, John Mayer? I know that you totally disagree with some of the people you did put on this list, but why not write about some artists who really deserve the press? Or bands who deserve a place?
Seriously, Dr. Dre but no NWA?
Not trying to make you guys sound dumb, but the Beatles AND McCartney, Cream AND Clapton? It only makes sense to induct NWA as soon as they can, and it should be before they induct Dre.
and what about Radiohead? No Doubt or Gwen Stefani? The Darkness or The Killers? Ween or the Flaming Lips? And there is a lot of albums [some by women, gasp!] out there that are 100% more epic then Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill.
Comment by Blaire — June 24, 2007 @ 06:31PM
Amen to Kraftwerk. I wouldn't even rate myself a "fan," but if we're measuring bands on their musical influence, it's no contest. Heard any bands in the last 30 years employing, say, drum machines and sequencers? Sure you have.
Comment by shatterglass — June 26, 2007 @ 04:33AM
The Replacements graced the cover of Rolling Stone magazine when the rag named them the best US rock band some years back. I think for the Let It Be record. Check your facts when making statements - a basic responsibility of reporting.
Comment by cheese — June 26, 2007 @ 08:08AM